The following phone call took place on March 12, 1979, between Phil Brigandi, 1979 Section W4B Chief, and E. Urner Goodman, Founder of the Order of the Arrow. The audio was donated on Mr. Brigandi’s behalf by historian David Daniels to the National OA Digital Archive.
Phil Brigandi (1959 – 2019) was a well-known historian, researcher, and scholar. His worked spanned many areas, including the City of Orange, Orange County, the Ramona Pageant, and Scouting.